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bockduese
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 Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:14 pm Post subject: Halion One Sounds very quiet |
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Hi folks,
I am using Cubase Studio5 with Halion One. My issue is , that Halion is only creating a very low output level, i.e. sigificantly lower than other VSt instruments.
For example: I load a Piano Sample, set the fader in cubase to 0db and play a full note with a velocity of 127. The maximum return signal I get is -9db, which is way to low to survive against the other volume levels, plus you normally would not play your piano at 127 but rather between 80 - 100.
To get the signal positioned in the mix I have to lower all other channels to very low levels, which appears strange to me.
Has anybody experienced this before? Is there a way to boos the master volume of HalionOne?
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sirge
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:31 am Post subject: Re: Halion One Sounds very quiet |
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| bockduese wrote: | Hi folks,
I am using Cubase Studio5 with Halion One. My issue is , that Halion is only creating a very low output level, i.e. sigificantly lower than other VSt instruments.
For example: I load a Piano Sample, set the fader in cubase to 0db and play a full note with a velocity of 127. The maximum return signal I get is -9db, which is way to low to survive against the other volume levels, plus you normally would not play your piano at 127 but rather between 80 - 100.
To get the signal positioned in the mix I have to lower all other channels to very low levels, which appears strange to me.
Has anybody experienced this before? Is there a way to boos the master volume of HalionOne?
Cheers,
Gerd |
In the MACRO button page, the Volume knob in the Amplifier section raises ALL instrument sounds you're working on in Halion at once, but if you wish to raise INDIVIDUAL instrument sounds..go to the FILTER button page, under the right-hand sample list column change the "ALL" button to "SELECT", then choose/ click the sample you wish to raise the volume of [in the menu list], then from the page window's DCA area adjust the volume for THAT particular sample/ instrument with the VOLUME knob...that will raise ONLY that sound selected. For multiple samples/ sounds..click more from the list/menu. To adjust all in the list/menu, change the button from "SELECT" back to "ALL".
That should do it.
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edipro
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:37 pm Post subject: Halion volume... |
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I read your thread on the Halion volume solution. I have the same problem except that I don't know what a Macro button is or where to find it.
I have Cubase 5 with the Halion that loaded with the program. I didn't install the Halion disk. Is this Macro thing in that?
Any help would be appreciated.
edipro
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sirge
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: Halion volume... |
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| edipro wrote: | I read your thread on the Halion volume solution. I have the same problem except that I don't know what a Macro button is or where to find it.
I have Cubase 5 with the Halion that loaded with the program. I didn't install the Halion disk. Is this Macro thing in that?
Any help would be appreciated.
edipro
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No. Hopefully we have the same "graphic" of the Halion. When it's in MACRO mode, you should be seeing the ENTIRE keyboard synth graphic (ie. as if you were working on the Kurzweil K2xxx series synth. When in the other modes, it gives you the INDIVIDUAL screens for better/ more detailed "tweaking" of whatever feature you're trying to enhance (ie. to truncate a wave to exactly the length you want). The macro button which is the last button on the keyboard synth to the right..brings up the MACRO screen which is simply the entire view of the keyboard synthsizer (as if you were just looking at keyboard synths in a store)
Hope that helps what I meant....continued prosperity maaan !
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edipro
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| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Thank you your quick reply.
My problem is I don't know where Macro mode is; or how to get to it. I can't find a keyboard-like graphic anywhere.
Sorry for being so thick. 
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chemaf
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Seems to me you're talking about different Halions: HalionOne it's not the same as Halion 3 (it has macro). Am I wrong?
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edipro
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:13 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Chemaf, In a way, I hope you're right because I looked everywhere for this macro. Maybe it isn't me...maybe. lol.
But the problem still remains on how to turn up the levels of the Halion. Any ideas anyone?
Thanks to everyone so far. Maybe there is no solution. Maybe it's an encouragement ploy to buy the whole thing.
Cheers all.
edipro
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chemaf
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Well, that's weird. I have noticed since before that HalionOne doesn't have a volume knob. HalionOne doesn't have a keyboard synth graphic also . So I opened it, selected a piano, set the midi channel fader to 127 and then set the instrument channel fader over 0 db and hit my controller . It gave me the red peaks. Check both faders. I'll keep looking. Good Luck.
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sirge
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| Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Edipro,
sorry for my delay on getting back to your last inquiry...was on several projects and also a composer "internship" for composing to commercials and movies with a very successful award winning tv commercials producer.
Chemaf may have a point...we may have different versions. Mine never mention the version; therefore, I just assumed it to be the 1st one. I have just saved the PDF instructions and can email you it if you wish to take a look if it's your version too. If it is the version, while in Acrobat Reader ..just open the HALion doc to the needed page.
I didn't wish to place the file on our company website's server for download so as to avoid possible copyright publishing penalties, but I believe emailing you doc (ie. 100 pages, approx 2mb of space it'll take up) is the same as actually giving you the paperback version of my manual to look at (ie. legal).
If you wish, send me your email address and I'll send it. Our company's email is Info@SirgeSound.com [attn the email to me....so whoever sees it will pass it to me].
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edipro
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| Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:38 pm Post subject: re: pdf |
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Thanks Sirge, My email is on the way. Thanks to everyone. This is a great resource.
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chemaf
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Sorry guys, I insist: HalionOne is the vst instrument included in Cubase (it's not a sample player) and it has nothing to do with Halion 1, 2 or 3 (the sample editor player). There is also a Halion Player and they are and were sold separately.
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sirge
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Ok thanks,...on it Edipro.
Blessings everyone !
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edipro
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject: Halion One verses Halion |
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Over the last while I have been trying to find out why I can't adjust the volume on the Halion Plugin in Cubase 5. Many people here have come to my aid in trying to help me out of this. Sirge was even concerned enough to send me the manual on Halion. It actually provided my with the answer and here it is.
Halion One is not an instrument...it is just a sample player. It comes with Cubase 5 and you can use samples of many instruments that also come with Cubase. Myself and a few others here were under the impression that it was a Halion instrument with multiple parameter controls. It has a few but volume is not one of them. Nor does it have a keyboard graphic or macros. So the answer to my question is: Halion One is just a sample player.
Thanks to all for contributing.
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edipro
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: It is a sample player according to Steinberg documentation. |
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Quoted: Sorry guys, I insist: HalionOne is the vst instrument included in Cubase (it's not a sample player) ...
If you go to the "Plugin Reference Manual" in your Steinberg documentation, on page 72, the first line introduces Halion One as a "sample player".
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chemaf
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Quoted: Sorry guys, I insist: HalionOne is the vst instrument included in Cubase (it's not a sample player) ...
Yeah, I meant that it only plays the included library within Cubase but you cannot edit or import as with Halion 1, 2 or 3 ( prox. 4). Nice, you finally have your answer. Good luck
Saludos
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sirge
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Glad the info I sent was helpful.
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| Good read! Thanks! |
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bockduese
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| Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Darn, I still cannot figure out how to make HalionOne play louder. The VST's instrument volume is set t max, yet it is way more quite than the rest ...
Sigh, any further ideas?
Cheers,
Gerd |
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jools321
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:57 am Post subject: |
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@Gerd: Bounce it. Simply edit your quiet sounding midi track until you are satisfied with it, and then process it into an audio track. Using volume and/or gain you now can make it as loud as you want.  |
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