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MiL0
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 Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 12:49 pm Post subject: SX Unattended Export Tool |
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Check the last post for the newest version.
Okay so a few people might remember my first post describing my frustration at SX's lack of an automated audio export function that you could leave unattended to get on with the job. I took it upon myself to write this little tool and so far it seems to be doing the job very well.
So anyway, here it is... a word of warning though - it's definitely a BETA and it's very important that you read the included readme BEFORE you use it!
http://miloandprolix.com/projects/SX_Unattended_Audio_Export_Tool_0.4.zip
For those who don't know what it is or why they might need it consider this scenario: You have 40 tracks made up of audio and vsti tracks. You need to bounce each track down to an audio file for archive/backup, cpu-saving or post-mixing reasons. This would require exporting one track, waiting for it to finish and then moving onto the next. I wrote SX Unattended Audio Export Tool to automate this very tedious task - hope you all enjoy.
Feel free to post any bugs or suggestions for improvement. Nuendo users should also post here if they want me to write a version for them.
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: SX Unattended Audio Export Tool 0.3 (BETA) |
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| MiL0 wrote: | Okay so a few people might remember my first post describing my frustration at SX's lack of an automated audio export function that you could leave unattended to get on with the job. I took it upon myself to write this little tool and so far it seems to be doing the job very well.
So anyway, here it is... a word of warning though - it's definitely a BETA and it's very important that you read the included readme BEFORE you use it!
http://miloandprolix.com/projects/SX_Unattended_Audio_Export_Tool_0.3.zip
For those who don't know what it is or why they might need it consider this scenario: You have 40 tracks made up of audio and vsti tracks. You need to bounce each track down to an audio file for archive/backup, cpu-saving or post-mixing reasons. This would require exporting one track, waiting for it to finish and then moving onto the next. I wrote SX Unattended Audio Export Tool to automate this very tedious task - hope you all enjoy.
Feel free to post any bugs or suggestions for improvement. Nuendo users should also post here if they want me to write a version for them.
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Hey Milo,
BIG Thumbs up! You've beaten Steinberg to the challenge and provided a half-way house workaround for this problem which is one of the most annoying things for me personally... 
I just read the instructions in the README so far, but if followed closely, the results sound like they will be pretty good
@ Steinberg/Christian/Uwe/Micha - As it seems that the CB user base is having to come up with its own workarounds for particularly frustrating problems, could you comment on whether this feature will be added in the near future?
Again thanks Milo, will try to test it tomorrow night and give some feedback!!
Gary - now waiting for Steinberg to make the next move
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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My wishlist for a tool like this ...
a) It offers you a checklist of audio and VSTi tracks that can be exported. The default selection is that all will be exported, twice, once with FX and EQ, and once completely dry. It makes it easy to deselect all, and turn off the option of exporting FX tracks, or dry tracks etc. It would be great if you could also export the reverb/delay send seperately.
b) All tracks are automatically normalised if they are under optimum level, and reduced in export volume if they peak. This is a critical issue, especially with tracks that have FX are more aggressive EQ - the tools needs to account for peaks, and auto-level everything for maximum resolution and no overages.
c) The naming of exported tracks is intuitive and informative, with tempo information. It could even include which FX have been used on the 'wet' tracks. Yes, the names would be long, but it would be damn helpful.
d) Tracks that are shorter than the entire length of the project export only to the point where they finish - in other words, you don't have to have every track exported from the start all the way to the end, even if many finish much earlier than the end of the song.
e) Obviously, all formats, bit rates etc are catered for.
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome!
I've been dreading this crap for ages and you come along.
I'll try it out as soon as i can and get back to you with feedback.
Good stuff! |
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MiL0
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| Stuart Stuart wrote: | My wishlist for a tool like this ...
a) It offers you a checklist of audio and VSTi tracks that can be exported. The default selection is that all will be exported, twice, once with FX and EQ, and once completely dry. It makes it easy to deselect all, and turn off the option of exporting FX tracks, or dry tracks etc. It would be great if you could also export the reverb/delay send seperately.
b) All tracks are automatically normalised if they are under optimum level, and reduced in export volume if they peak. This is a critical issue, especially with tracks that have FX are more aggressive EQ - the tools needs to account for peaks, and auto-level everything for maximum resolution and no overages.
c) The naming of exported tracks is intuitive and informative, with tempo information. It could even include which FX have been used on the 'wet' tracks. Yes, the names would be long, but it would be damn helpful.
d) Tracks that are shorter than the entire length of the project export only to the point where they finish - in other words, you don't have to have every track exported from the start all the way to the end, even if many finish much earlier than the end of the song.
e) Obviously, all formats, bit rates etc are catered for. |
I totally agree - SX would be perfect with those options. Unfortunately my tool is very limited by what's actually possible within the current release of SX. A tool like this would have to be written by Steinberg or, more likely, integrated into the Audio Export options. My tool uses a very simple macro scripting language which, simply put, simulates the mouse and keyboard actions necessary to pull up the Audio Export options, enter a filename and wait for the Audio Export to complete before looping and repeating the process until the desired number of audio tracks have been exported.
This wasn't an easy task by the way! SX uses non-standard Windows for its Audio Export Progress meter so it was difficult to get my tool to accurately detect whether the export process had finished. This is why, when exporting large audio files, you'll notice that the export progress meter temporarily disappears and then reappears. This is normal behaviour.
Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts - I'd be more than happy to implement any other features you can think of provided they stay within the realms of what's already manually possible within SX. Oh, and just in case anyone was thinking this tool is a tad ugly, the GUI is what I'm currently improving!
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your efforts - if the least of what you achieve is to give Steinberg a jumping off point for a more comprehensive feature, you've contributed to the history of the DAW!
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| Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Will this work with Nuendo 3 as well??
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MiL0
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| Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Neil Wilkes wrote: | | Will this work with Nuendo 3 as well?? |
Almost certainly not as the tool makes specific 'calls' to Cubase windows. What I need from SL/Nuendo users is the following information in order for me to make a compatible tool:
1) The exact window name/title for Nuendo/SL. (eg - SX's window title is "Cubase SX - Project name")
2) The exact combination of keys required to pull up the audio export options. (eg - from memory, SX is something like:
S (solo track)
ALT
F (brings up file menu)
E
E (brings up export sub menu)
etc etc
It's probably the same as it is for SX but a confirmation would be appreciated.
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| MiL0 wrote: | | Neil Wilkes wrote: | | Will this work with Nuendo 3 as well?? |
Almost certainly not as the tool makes specific 'calls' to Cubase windows. What I need from SL/Nuendo users is the following information in order for me to make a compatible tool:
1) The exact window name/title for Nuendo/SL. (eg - SX's window title is "Cubase SX - Project name")
2) The exact combination of keys required to pull up the audio export options. (eg - from memory, SX is something like:
S (solo track)
ALT
F (brings up file menu)
E
E (brings up export sub menu)
etc etc
It's probably the same as it is for SX but a confirmation would be appreciated.
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1/. What window do you mean here? If the project window, then it is "Nuendo Project - (project name).npr"
2/. S = Solo Track. All the others do not have key commands by default, if I understand correctly - which I quite possibly do not.
Can you please tell me exactly what commands you are looking for?
Also, is there a macro feature in SX3?
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No I mean the application window title which would be the outer-most main application window. It should be "Nuendo - project name.npr" or similar. 'Nuendo Project - project name.npr" sounds like the subwindow inside the main one. As for the 2nd part. Imagine you were about to export an audio track but you didn't have access to the mouse. You'd need to bring up the file menu by doing ALT+F and then press E twice to get the Audio Export sub menu up. Hard to explain in words if you haven't done this before. Perhaps another Nuendo (and maybe SL) user can do this if you have trouble.
There is a macro feature in SX3 but it's probably the same as it is in SX2, ie very limited.
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| Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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That all sounds very convoluted!
I have to admit I set a key command for Export Audio mixdown to "Alt-B".
The main outer window is called "Nuendo".
The next window is the main project window, which is as posted before, "Nuendo Project - (project name).npr"
There is no key command to bring up the file menu. ALT-F does nothing.
S brings up the solo command.
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| Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks Milo, nice one. |
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| Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks MiLO.
Will take it for a spin as soon as I get a chance.
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MiL0
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| Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Neil Wilkes wrote: | That all sounds very convoluted!
I have to admit I set a key command for Export Audio mixdown to "Alt-B".
The main outer window is called "Nuendo".
The next window is the main project window, which is as posted before, "Nuendo Project - (project name).npr"
There is no key command to bring up the file menu. ALT-F does nothing.
S brings up the solo command. |
Okay, no problem - I'll have to do a bit of guesswork and assume it's the same sequence of keypresses as SX. Should have something for you in the next few days.
Oh, and here's a new version that fixes a few bugs (SX only though):
http://miloandprolix.com/projects/SX_Unattended_Audio_Export_Tool_0.4.zip
Enjoy. 
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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No chance to check this yet, but if it is what I think you are saying it is -- and if it works -- DUDE, you are so cool... I'm serious... ANYONE who has needed to do this before will see how amazing it is.
I will try it out as soon as I can...
Meanwhile, please prepare yourself for the sight of Cubase users everywhere bowing to you!!! |
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Full respect to Mil0
I love it when CUSTOMERS add features that everybody wants but Steinberg for some odd reason don't include.
The same happened with SX1 which didn't have a pan control on Stereo Audio Channels. The cool JimH wrote a VSTi plugin to give us stereo pan!!
THUMBS UP!!!!
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bump
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| Thank you This the only request i ever made to Steinberg Team. It´s pretty much like the of icing on top. |
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Milo,
Thank you for giving up your time to do this and for sharing it. Your generosity is noted and much appreciated.
Regards,
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Has anyone used this w/ SX 1 yet? I tried it today, and it seemed it was having some issues. Many times it would export one track and then bring up an error saying that it couldn't find Cubase SX then would give me the option to retry or abort. (Could using dual monitors confuse the script howhow into thinking that SX wasn't open?). I did get it to export all the files correctly on a few projects but other projects failed again and again.
Anyone else had similar results? I think this will be an incredible tool once the bugs are worked out!
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| Neil Wilkes wrote: | There is no key command to bring up the file menu. ALT-F does nothing.
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This happens, when a Nuendo shortcut is already using Alt + F.
You probably need to deactivate ( or change ) it, to use Milo's tool.
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Cool!
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Milo, is there anyway this tool could be modified to select a group of tracks and export them and pull them
back into a lane?
(The hard part probably being pulling them back into the exactly lane from which they came..)
(Might only be able to do one at a time.  )
I haven't got the chance to test it yet, but it's highly on my list in the next day or two and I am wondering
since I am occasionally known to be somewhat macro/programmer dangerous if it's possible for somebody
like me to ask to assist in function addition?
I mean, lets say we wanted to add/change the key combinations, ( I have read the threads but haven't unpacked/used the tool yet)
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| cwatkins wrote: | Milo, is there anyway this tool could be modified to select a group of tracks and export them and pull them
back into a lane?
(The hard part probably being pulling them back into the exactly lane from which they came..)
(Might only be able to do one at a time. )
I haven't got the chance to test it yet, but it's highly on my list in the next day or two and I am wondering
since I am occasionally known to be somewhat macro/programmer dangerous if it's possible for somebody
like me to ask to assist in function addition?
I mean, lets say we wanted to add/change the key combinations, ( I have read the threads but haven't unpacked/used the tool yet) |
yes! to be honest, I've just got back from a year's travelling in Thailand and I'm very jetlagged/spun out at the moment so haven't had a chance to look at the bugs yet. I'd really appreciate someone who knows how to do macro scripting to come on board and help me improve this/beta test. I've already posted some information regarding this as well as the source code here:
http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.php?s=2a21415ee9ca6634bafe4cdd3c3222dd&threadid=292033
take a look and see what you think
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bump for Monday morning
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@ Christian and Cubase.net mods:
Any chance of makin this thread sticky? Please?
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Geez -- I can't help it -- "bump".... Everyone ought to know about this one...
I FINALLY got the chance to run this little beauty thru it's paces -- I was on a strict time limit, I mean I had to RUSH to get these tracks/loops exported from SX3 -- I fired up this amazing little doo-dad and I'm telling you, it worked PERFECTLY. It did EXACTLY what I wanted, and did it about 1000 times more quickly than I could have done it myself manually.
THANKS FOR THIS!!!
And yes, I'm shouting (all CAPS) because I would have NO IDEA how to write this myself, but it's a tool I will use every single week! |
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MiL0
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| TokyoTain wrote: | Geez -- I can't help it -- "bump".... Everyone ought to know about this one...
I FINALLY got the chance to run this little beauty thru it's paces -- I was on a strict time limit, I mean I had to RUSH to get these tracks/loops exported from SX3 -- I fired up this amazing little doo-dad and I'm telling you, it worked PERFECTLY. It did EXACTLY what I wanted, and did it about 1000 times more quickly than I could have done it myself manually.
THANKS FOR THIS!!!
And yes, I'm shouting (all CAPS) because I would have NO IDEA how to write this myself, but it's a tool I will use every single week! |
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| MiL0 wrote: | | bump for Monday morning |
Nice on Milo ....
I dig your ingenuity.
This will certainly be of benefit to many users.
Cheers
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I'll try this as soon as possible - your kindness is hugely appreciated MiL0!!!
Best regards,
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