MIDEX -3 & -8 driver v1.903 update available (PC only)

Christian Dettner

Dear MIDEX-users,

We have released a new driver version for the MIDEX-3 and MIDEX-8 ! These issues have been fixed:

Version 1.9.0.3:
- An error, which occurs while transmitting large SysEx dumps is solved.
- This driver contains an optimization for receiving SysEx data via DirectMusic MIDI inputs.

FTP download for MIDEX-3
FTP download for MIDEX-8

Best regards,
Your Steinberg team

vinark · Member Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 616 Location: Amsterdam

Thanks, afther a short sysx test I can say........YES it works
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Rico Bach · New Member Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 9 Location: Germany

What with new Midex Driver for OSX ???

Yasen Hedreg · Member Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 123

yes it works.

aahhhh Very Happy

what a perferct companion it is now

thank you.
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Flexis · Member Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Belgium

STILL TROUBLE
http://forum.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=15205
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Christian Dettner · Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: new Midex Driver OSX ???

Gary Westhead · Junior Member Joined: 22 Mar 2005 Posts: 33 Location: UK

STILL NOT WORKING FOR ME EITHER, AND I HAVE TWO OF THEM...BUMMER!!!

Downloaded the new driver, installed it, and connected devices, as per insructions. Tried SysEx dumps with Korg Triton Rack and Korg X3. No joy! Dumping data up to Cubase seems OK as the SysEx data appears in the List Editor. However, devices do not respond when the SysEx data is sent back to them from Cubase. All I'm trying to do is dump individual programs, program changes, etc. Nothing really big. But MIDEX 8 just won't take it!!!

Regards

Wes

dada · Guest

Hmmm ....
AFAIR there were two different hardware revisions of the Midex 8.

Maybe the fix only works with the latest ?!

Christian ??

bye, Jan

Christian Dettner · Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:55 am Post subject:

Hello,

I have closed the doubled topic at the Windows forum.

http://forum.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=15205

Please let us focus the reports in this topic here instead.

dada, I have to check this but AFAIK the fix has been made in the driver itself and not in the firmware. It should work for all MIDEXs.
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dada · Guest

OK,
perhaps Flexis and Gary can double check, if they have the latest firmware update.
( guess it was installed with 1.8 ... )

I have the old hardware revision.
Will check later today with my extra large Finalizer dump.
It never worked with SX / Midex ...

bye, Jan

Flexis · Member Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Belgium

After installing the new driver and firmware

Problem; An1x and Midex lockup at voicedump or bigger,scene dump works fine.

What I did; I recorded a voice bulk dump from the An1x. ( sysex through off midi through on !! and the AN1x Local off !! )
I then checked if the events where indeed recorded in the midi list editor and they where.
There where 4 medium large sysex events there and they all properly started with F0 and ended with F7.
I then changed the sound on the AN1x so I could test if the sound get's changed back.
Then I played back the sysex dump to the An1x.
(I also tried this with midi in on the track parameters turned off to make sure nothing got looped)

What happened; The An1x screen displays "recieving bulk dump"
I wait for the dump to finish while looking at the track...the dump is finished nothing happens...
10 seconds go by...still displaying "recieving bulk dump"....the An1x somehow crashed.

What I did next; I played some notes => no sound audible
I then switched on the local switch and played some notes again => no sound audible , the An1x clearly has locked up somehow.
Thinking Its only the an1x that crashed I turn it off and on again.
Once again I played some notes => the An1x works again
I then turn off its local switch witch was still on and play some notes => There is no sound
=> The midex is not responding , to find out if it is only the midi out I try to play with a vsti => the vsti is not recieving midi input either.
I then unplug the midex and plug it back in.(the driver and firmware reloads)
Next I have to start up cubase again so it can detect the midex again.
We are back to where we started.
(Some testing reveiled that this lockup already happens after the first of the 4 sysex events.)

Conclusion; It's not working !
I do believe that sysex for most equipment have been fixed as the checksum error on my groovebox now is gone too.
But there seem to be a few troublesome devices left.

Hope that's enough info now

Confused

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Rozzer · Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:36 pm Post subject:

Hmm.. can any other users comment on whether the new drivers solve old sysex problems ?

I'd happily buy a midex8 (I sold mine does to the sysex probs Confused

) if I thought everything had been fixed.

Judging by this thread it doesn't look too hopeful though.
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Christian Dettner · Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:55 pm Post subject:

Not hopeless at all, whereas the current issues have to be checked carefully.
Most users are now happy so there is a substantial improvement.

Some reports from the Nuendo folks:
http://forum.nuendo.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=4325
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Flexis · Member Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Belgium

Well it might have helped some people but other people are still left in the cold.
So far there are three device's I know of that still have problems,the yamaha An1x, the Korg Triton Rack and the Korg X3.
I'm sure more will show up.
Steinberg still have work to do if they want to make everyone happy including me!!!

We should gather a list of gear that doesn't work with the new driver including bug report's.
Can't a sticky be made for this.
Mabe that's the best way to gather all info quickly and get a driver or firmware fix.
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Rozzer · Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 2:58 pm Post subject:

Christian Dettner · Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:01 pm Post subject:

Hello,

Of course we will try to look what the reamining issue could be, though it could take some time again. I am following this topic to collect additional information, so please keep it coming...

Best,
Christian
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Yasen Hedreg · Member Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 123

have you only tried to send sysex through sx?
i never have done that .
the editor (the fs1r editor) for my fs1r didn`t work with the old driver,
now it does.
@flexis:can you try one the freeware editors for the an1x to check that out?
so we are narrowing things down a little bit.
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Flexis · Member Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Belgium

They don't work either I have one,i'll give that some further testing
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Yasen Hedreg · Member Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 123

well, here`s another one:

try setting the midex as system default midi device for win xp
and set the option : always use prefered audio devices.

don`t know if that is helpful but, except from a complete reinstall
i don`t have any ideas left at the moment.
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S4410 · Member Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 174 Location: Athens

Gary Westhead · Junior Member Joined: 22 Mar 2005 Posts: 33 Location: UK

Problem

MIDI SysEx dumps from Cubase to some external sound modules, via Midex 8, still don’t work. No apparent improvement with latest driver/firmware for me, unfortunately, but see below for further details!

Comments

It is possible to dump SysEx data from all sound modules into Cubase. Midex LED (in) indicates data flow into Cubase is OK, and SysEx data also appears in List Editor with no apparent problems. However, some sound modules will not respond to the SysEx data on play back from Cubase. Moreover, all MIDI out channels stop working, the Panic button stops working, and the only way to recover is via USB reset and close/reload of Cubase.

Inconvenient Workaround

SysEx data can be recorded into Cubase manually, so to speak, via the interface of each sound module. By setting Local Control to ON, and then pressing the appropriate buttons on the sound module interface when Cubase is in record mode, the same result can be achieved, though this process is a little more long winded. Midex LED (in) indicates data flow into Cubase is OK. SysEx data appears OK in List Editor. Sound modules then respond normally, and as expected, to in coming data when played from Cubase. One should remember, however, that many keyboards and sound modules have memory protect enabled by default, so this may need to be disabled. MIDI filter settings, such as Program Change, Bank, Combination, After Touch, Control Change, and Exclusive, should all be enabled, bye the way. So, in this way, it is possible to save the patches we are using in a song, and recall them each time we load Cubase, which is what we want, isn't it?. I have tested all of my sound modules using this preocedure and they all work!

Triton Rack Example

Triton MIDI Out is connected to the Midex 8 MIDI channel 1 (in) and Triton MIDI In is connected to the Midex 8 MIDI channel 1 (out).

On the Triton Rack, press the Global button, then press the F2 button to open the Preferences Tab, then in the Memory Protect section, remove the tick from the Program box. Then, press the Menu button. In the Page Menu, scroll to MIDI, then press the F8 button to open the Global MIDI Menu. Make sure all boxes in the MIDI Filter section are ticked, then press the exit button, followed by either the Program button or the Combination button. The Triton is now set up to send SysEx data.

In order for the correct patch to load into the Triton Rack every time we load our song into Cubase, we need to record the patch number, the Bank, and the Program or Combi settings. In this example, lets say I want to record the 000:Romance Layers patch in Bank A of the Combination section. So, to start with, locate the patch. Then, turn the jog wheel one notch clockwise and load patch 001:Lonely Mood. The press the Bank B button, followed by the Program button. Now set Cubase to record, and press the Combi button, then the Bank A button, then turn the jog wheel back to position 000: Romance Layers. Stop recording. Check the SysEx data in List Editor.

If anyone can think of a more convenient way, then please do let me know.

System Hardware

Asus P4PE Motherboard
Intel Chipset
Award Modular Bios (Version 6.0)
Intel 2.6GHz Pentium 4 Processor
1024 Meg RAM (Kingston)
Matrox Millennium G550 AGP Dual Display Card (Driver Version 5.71.014)
Terratec DMX6 Fire Sound Card (Driver Version 5.00.2000.0128)
TC Electronics Powercore PCI DSP (Driver Version 1.8.0)
PS2 Mouse and Keyboard
Steinberg Midex 8 (X2) (Driver Version 1.9.0.3 / Firmware 2.1) Both units powered by external PSU.

System Software

Windows 2000 Professional SPK4 (Build 5.0.2195)
Direct X (Version 9.0b Build 4.09.0000.0902)

Relevant Programs

Steinberg Cubase SX (Version 2.2.0 Build 35)

Associated System Settings

USB Protection Device UHC – 24C2 (10%) IRQ 16 (shared)
Midex 8 (1) UHC – 24C4 (31%) IRQ 19
Midex 8 (2) UHC – 24C7 (31%) IRQ 18
MME Compatibility: all in/out ports enabled on both devices
(No system conflicts on any devices)

Cubase SX2 Device Setup

All MIDI Inputs/Setup/Device: all active.
Default MIDI Ports/Setup: MIDI In = Midex 8 (2) 8; MIDI Out = ?
DirectMusic/Setup/Device Out: none active; Device In: all active.
Windows MIDI/Setup/Device: none active.

Midex MIDI Routing Setup

Bulk dumps from some sound modules, however, still remain an issue.

Midex 8 (1) MIDI channel in/out (1) Korg Triton Rack (SysEx = No)
Midex 8 (1) MIDI channel in/out (2) Alesis QS 6.1 (Not Tested)
Midex 8 (1) MIDI channel in/out (3) Roland SPD20 (Not Tested)
Midex 8 (1) MIDI channel in/out (4) Roland R5 Rhythm Composer (SysEx = No)
Midex 8 (1) MIDI channel in/out (5) Roland Rhodes 660 (SysEx = Yes)
Midex 8 (1) MIDI channel in/out (6) Korg X3 (SysEx = No)
Midex 8 (1) MIDI channel in/out (7) Free
Midex 8 (1) MIDI channel in ( Fatar Studiologic SL880 (Master Keyboard)

Midex 8 (2) MIDI channel in/out (1) Novation A Station (SysEx = Yes)
Midex 8 (2) MIDI channel in/out (2) Alesis DM5 (SysEx = Yes)
Midex 8 (2) MIDI channel in/out (3) Access Virus Rack (SysEx = Yes)
Midex 8 (2) MIDI channel in/out (4) EMU Orbit-3 (SysEx = Yes)
Midex 8 (2) MIDI channel in/out (5) EMU Virtuoso 2000 (SysEx = Yes)
Midex 8 (2) MIDI channel in/out (6) EMU Proteus 2000 (SysEx = Yes)
Midex 8 (2) MIDI channel in/out (7) Novation KS Rack (SysEx = Yes)
Midex 8 (2) MIDI channel in/out ( Roland XV5050 (SysEx = No)

Yasen Hedreg · Member Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 123

hello again.
yesterday i took the time to try my midex3
on an another, my very old machine.
this is is, don`t laugh please,
a 450Mhz P2 512 Mb Siemens D1107 mainboard.
I installed Win Xp Home SP2, nothing else.
No Soundcard, no network, nothing.
Then i installed the midex with the newest driver
and the Fs1r editor. I also installed miditest,

http://www.evc-soft.nl/evc/products/miditest/ .

I hooked up my fs1r and tried to dump some sysex into
the computer.succesful.
then i tried to dump that back.failed.
the midex stalled and i had to reboot.

then i tried mididtest and had the same results.
no sysex send possble.

what is the issue with the midex?
why does it work (now luckily after updating the driver) on my studio computer,
but refuses to do so on the other very clean computer?
i don`t want to pray everytime i have to install the midex.
i want it to work as it is suposed to.
dear steinberg, please fix it or else think about some refund towards
the ones who bought a midex.
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Flexis · Member Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Belgium

It's been a while since I last posted about this.
I have tried to use an editor for my AN1x but so far results are pretty much the same.
The an1x is locked up while i'm writing this.
I haven't really resaerched it much yet with this editor because i'm pretty busy lately.
If I discover anything interesting I'll post here again.
I hope Steinberg will continue to improve the midex driver so that everyone can enjoy their gear in full glory.
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Flexis · Member Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Belgium

Is anyone still following this???
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Gary Westhead · Junior Member Joined: 22 Mar 2005 Posts: 33 Location: UK

yes, me!!!

Rozzer · Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 9:30 am Post subject:

... and me!

I borrowed a friends Midex3 for a few days (having sold my Midex8 a year ago due to the sysex problems). I tried all sorts of dumps from my Access Virus, to and from Cubase and Midi-Ox, and I'm pleased to say that there was no corruption anywhere. Everything worked as it should.

I'm still concearned for the people who still have problems though. And now I really don't know whether to purchase another Midex unit!
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Flexis · Member Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Belgium

By the way,
I never had dropout's with the old driver only sysex problem's.
Now I have to reboot cubase on a regular basis because it lost connection with the midex and I have sysex trouble!
Steiny common help us out here!
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ColdJazz · New Member Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 13

I bought a Steinberg MIDEX8 a few months ago. I never got the MIDI-cable test function to work, but after A LOT of trouble with the installation I at least could use the MIDI-interface without any problems (but only the MIDI-functions, not the cable tester).

That’s what I thought until last night. The MIDI-interface had worked without any problems what so ever, timing was spot on and it was generally rock solid. But last night something weird happened.

When I turned the computer on the indicators on the MIDEX8 all lit up, except the indicator for MIDI IN 1. Normally the only indicator that is lit is the MIDI IN 1, until I start Cubase SX. As soon as I start the sequencer, ALL indicators goes off (this is what happens when the MIDEX8 works as it should). But last night, when I started the host program, the indicators never went off, and the indicator for MIDI IN 1 was turned off all the time.

No signals were received or could be sent from the MIDEX8, it was impossible to use it. So I tried to reinstall it, in a new USB-port. And now the MIDEX8 seemed to work! But that only lasted for about 10 minutes.

Now even weirder things happened. The MIDEX8 booted up as it should, and all indicators went off when I started Cubase SX (this is how things should be). But, as soon as I created a new project, the indicator for MIDI IN 1 lit up, and the MIDEX8 was impossible to use again.

The weird thing is that I haven’t modified my computer system. Its exactly the same as it was a month ago when the MIDEX8 worked without any problems what so ever.

The only difference between now and a few months ago is that I connected my Yamaha AN1X (both it’s IN and OUT’s). But if the MIDEX8 can’t handle the AN1X, I need a new interface that’s better engineered.

All these problems I’m having with the MIDEX8 is causing trouble for my business.

Thanks in advance

/CJ

Flexis · Member Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 128 Location: Belgium

Well just try to do a bulk dump to the AN1X ,then you will see how much the midex8 fails to deliver.
I've posted troubles with sysex and the AN1x a number of times but maybe you can try it too then I have someone who can confirm that it doesn't work.
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ColdJazz · New Member Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 13

>Well just try to do a bulk dump to the AN1X ,then you will see how much the midex8 fails to deliver.

...well, Ill try and do that tonight.
IF the 1.9 driver makes it possible to use the MIDEX8 with the AN1X that is. Right now I can't even connect the ANX1 since it makes the MIDEX8 to crash.

Pretty odd thing for a MIDI-interface to crash when you connect a synth (doesn't only crash, as mentioned in my last post the interface can't even be used).