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Roca
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 Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:53 pm Post subject: Akoustic Piano, The Grand 2 or Ivory |
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It is great news that Ivory is available for PC now. Well now there are 3 choices. 1. The Grand 2. 2.Ivory and 3.Akoustic Piano
There is going to be an update for The Grand 2 regarding some tuning issues. I don't have none of theme. I was Thinking of getting the Grand 2 but I want to wait to see what people are going to say about it after the update or the Akoustic Piano since it seems solid I have not read a complain about it yet. I did not know until now that Ivory came out for PC. So now I am in this dilemma. Well any suggestion ? Thanks.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:16 am Post subject: |
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You may also consider Virtual Grand Piano from Art Vista. It has received a great feedback at NorthernSounds.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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now, after I have installed the update for The Grand 2, everything is very very fine.
the sound is astonishing: you can use it in pop-music and in classical tunes, too.
the Ivory Grand is very good, too. It has 3 pianos and the sound is minimum as good as The Grand 2,
but it needs more ressources from your computer, if you want to play in best quality.
the best is: buy both of them. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:13 pm Post subject: Acustix Bösendorfer and Steinway Pianos |
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I'm using the Acustix Bösendorfer and Steinway Pianos for Halion to my great satisfaction. They are very compact and sound very warm.
The company is called AcustiX, never heard of before until I used their pianos http://acustix.vanbarel.com[/url] |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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ivory, with it´s three pianos is a lot more flexible and you´ll find a good sound for almost every situation.
if you only want to get one piano vsti then that´s the way to go imo. they all sound well though and i tend to want them all sooner or later. haven´t tested the NI piano in deep though. |
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Paul Woodlock
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Akoustic Piano, The Grand 2 or Ivory |
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| Roca wrote: | It is great news that Ivory is available for PC now. Well now there are 3 choices. 1. The Grand 2. 2.Ivory and 3.Akoustic Piano
There is going to be an update for The Grand 2 regarding some tuning issues. I don't have none of theme. I was Thinking of getting the Grand 2 but I want to wait to see what people are going to say about it after the update or the Akoustic Piano since it seems solid I have not read a complain about it yet. I did not know until now that Ivory came out for PC. So now I am in this dilemma. Well any suggestion ? Thanks. |
I've tried both the Grand 2 and Akoustik.
The Grand 2 is nice to actually play, but really doesn't sit in a mix well. Same as TG1. I could NEVER get that to sit in a mix well as it's too muddy. EQing doesn't help I'm afraid.
Akoustik on the other hand sits in a mix very very very well indeed. It does lack a bit of fullness compared to TG2 when played solo though.
So depends on what you do really. If you play solo piano music then TG2 would work fine. however if you use pianos in multi-instrument arrangements then Akoutik beats it hands down.
I haven't tried Ivory yet, but intend to very very soon.
Paul |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:33 am Post subject: |
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| lucky909091 wrote: | now, after I have installed the update for The Grand 2, everything is very very fine.
the sound is astonishing: you can use it in pop-music and in classical tunes, too.
the Ivory Grand is very good, too. It has 3 pianos and the sound is minimum as good as The Grand 2,
but it needs more ressources from your computer, if you want to play in best quality.
the best is: buy both of them. |
Just ordered Ivory. I'll post up my impressions in about a week. It should take about that long to load the samples. 
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stoennes
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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@lucky909091
I have then Grand 2 but may be I'll orde Ivory as well.
Please lat us know how ivory performes on your machine and of course how you like the sound!
And one more thing I 've read in a German forum that the installer for PC does not work correctly so that users have to transfer files manually. Let us know if the installer workes for you.
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animix
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| stoennes wrote: | @lucky909091
I have then Grand 2 but may be I'll orde Ivory as well.
Please lat us know how ivory performes on your machine and of course how you like the sound!
And one more thing I 've read in a German forum that the installer for PC does not work correctly so that users have to transfer files manually. Let us know if the installer workes for you.
Stefan |
I'll do that. I'm expecting it to show up tomorrow. I may give Ilio tech support a call before try to load it. I'm just so sick of ****'in software problems. I've been having a real headache with BFD, but finally got it sussed. I've Ghosted so many software installs I'm starting to lose track........but I'm really glad I did.
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animix
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| stoennes wrote: | @lucky909091
I have then Grand 2 but may be I'll orde Ivory as well.
Please lat us know how ivory performes on your machine and of course how you like the sound!
And one more thing I 've read in a German forum that the installer for PC does not work correctly so that users have to transfer files manually. Let us know if the installer workes for you.
Stefan |
Ivory installed with no problem and works perfectly on my PC. *Very* low on CPU usage. It's a good idea to instantiate it as the first VSTi in the rack in a project so it can access all the RAM it needs if you're using other VSTi's. I'm finding that if I have Halion Player,BFD or any other VSTi in the top slot, then add Ivory, then Ivory's access to available RAM is restricted so it automatically loads an instrument with fewer features (and even these sound amazing). If it's first in the VSTi slot, it has access to the entire memory resource and you have more flexibility. It sounds absolutely breathtaking. I'm playing Ivory in it's most RAM hungry mode with the Bosendorfer at it's most detailed level and the sustain pedal in heavy use, with midi tracks playing back VSTi's using Trilogy, BFD and Halion player and my CPU usage is around 12% at 128k buffers. RAM usage is around 1.55 G. I'm pretty familiar with the sound of the *real* Bosendorfer and Steinway D. I'd say that this is about as close to reality as I've ever heard through a pair of reference monitors.
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stoennes
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Animix,
That sounds great! But looking at your system specs anything else than very good performance would make me wonder!
My system is an Athlon XP3200+ 32bit with 1,5GB Corsair memory only but the Grand 2 runs very good with quite demanding settings. I will order Ivory as well, I will change my PC gear to something similar to your's anyway. And I am always keen on great pianos sounds!
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stoennes
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Ivory is on my PC now. Installation took som 80 minutes but was flawless. Performance is very well on my system as well.
But honestly, when it comes to the sound and response for solo piano playing and I still prefer Model 2 of The Grand 2. For me the sound has more depth adn body and is very well balanced. |
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lucky909091
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| stoennes wrote: | @lucky909091
I have then Grand 2 but may be I'll orde Ivory as well.
Please lat us know how ivory performes on your machine and of course how you like the sound!
And one more thing I 've read in a German forum that the installer for PC does not work correctly so that users have to transfer files manually. Let us know if the installer workes for you.
Stefan |
Everything is running fine. |
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stoennes
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Ivory runs fine on my system as well. And I must say, meanwhile I like the Ivory Steinway very much. |
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| guys remember the pmi Bosendorfer 290 Emperor........it's the best bosendorfer sound u can find in a library! |
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SEA
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Akoustic Piano, The Grand 2 or Ivory |
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| Paul Woodlock wrote: | The Grand 2 is nice to actually play, but really doesn't sit in a mix well. Same as TG1. I could NEVER get that to sit in a mix well as it's too muddy. EQing doesn't help I'm afraid.
Akoustik on the other hand sits in a mix very very very well indeed. It does lack a bit of fullness compared to TG2 when played solo though.
Paul |
Hey Paul,
I found that TG1 set very well in the mix for me playing all styles. I had to use eq and plugs to brighten it up.
However of late, I have been using Per's pianos (White Grand, TBO) and when you side by side White Grand with TG1, White grand sounds much fuller to me.
Of course it's over 4 gigs so...
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Would I be able to run Ivory on a computer with only 1 gig of RAM. My thought was to use another hardware piano sound from my XV-3080 while tracking, then toggle to Ivory and just freeze or render the track.
Anybody doing this?
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| Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:23 am Post subject: Re: Akoustic Piano, The Grand 2 or Ivory |
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| Roca wrote: | It is great news that Ivory is available for PC now. Well now there are 3 choices. 1. The Grand 2. 2.Ivory and 3.Akoustic Piano
There is going to be an update for The Grand 2 regarding some tuning issues. I don't have none of theme. I was Thinking of getting the Grand 2 but I want to wait to see what people are going to say about it after the update or the Akoustic Piano since it seems solid I have not read a complain about it yet. I did not know until now that Ivory came out for PC. So now I am in this dilemma. Well any suggestion ? Thanks. |
Has anyone had any experience with Pianoteq ?
http://www.pianoteq.com |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: Akoustic Piano, The Grand 2 or Ivory |
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| Osteele wrote: | | Roca wrote: | It is great news that Ivory is available for PC now. Well now there are 3 choices. 1. The Grand 2. 2.Ivory and 3.Akoustic Piano
There is going to be an update for The Grand 2 regarding some tuning issues. I don't have none of theme. I was Thinking of getting the Grand 2 but I want to wait to see what people are going to say about it after the update or the Akoustic Piano since it seems solid I have not read a complain about it yet. I did not know until now that Ivory came out for PC. So now I am in this dilemma. Well any suggestion ? Thanks. |
Has anyone had any experience with Pianoteq ?
http://www.pianoteq.com |
I haven't messed with it... but personally I thought the audio demos sounded "Synthy" to me.
Almost like and electric piano in the mid range, but it did sound better on top to me 
I'm not saying the sound is bad... just different, and different can be very good as well
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| Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Be vary careful of Akoustik Piano!
The NI forums is ablaze over tuning and velocity issues!
Ivory seems to be the one... I bought it. No pedal noises like the grand though! I really miss it in Ivory. The release hammer sounds as well is not as "present" as in the grand 2.
I think the grand 2 is very safe and middle of the road piano!
If I can turn back time I will rather save a few bucks and buy the grand 2, and that coming out of an Ivory owner' mouth is unheard of....
Ivory in "best" mode is really ram hungry. But if it goes it goes. Just load it in the 1st slot.
As one of the guys said, you gotta have both...
O yes! Ivory need 40 gigs for all the pianos!
I must say that the Yamaha on Ivory is so real, you wanna cry! The Bosendorfer is warm but the Steinway is not my favourite...
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Reading this thread made me realise just how many options there were !
WOW !
However, its gonna be very hard for anything to beat Synthology Ivory (all 10DVD's of it) !!!
Its pretty amazing. Make concert pianist's actually close their eyes when they play it in my studio!
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Hey Jake68!
Please don't get me wrong! I'm not looking for trouble! ))) See? I'm smiling!
It is actually Synthogy and not Synthology...
The reason why I post this is because they say in the manual of Ivory or on their web somewhere that their staff must be able to say Synthogy ten times in a row fast!!!! It's very funny to me!
Now do yourself a favour and try that tongue twister!!!
hehehe!
See you in the Nuendo forum again buddy!
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